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| 'Seize idle land' says Tinyefuza hosted by Administrator |
| The coordinator of the security services, Gen. David Tinyefuza, has called for radical land reforms and among other things proposed that idle land be seized and given to others to develop adding that there should be a limit to the size of land individuals can acquire. What is your view about this? |
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| Seize idle land authored by Byamukama on 13. August 2009 at 01:58 |
Pliz i would like to respont to what Affande Tinyefuza talks about IDLE LAND.I wish if he could recall Salamu Musumba's comment immediately after his utterrance of this message,he shoul have apologised just.
Salamu in I think press conference, asked if it would be possible for people also with more than two or more vehicles that they dont use at the same time be seized and given to those without any.
So to me I think we must start with Tinye himself to surrender all the other vehicles he has and retain only that he uses.
This I think is similar because the land owners also are keeping there land till when they are ready to use it.So it is some sort of hypocrisy that some one can talk such when he almost has more than enough around him that is not being put to use so immediately also. |
| A free economy authored by Mike on 12. August 2009 at 12:14 |
It is high time Ugandans of the kind Tinye got to appreciate the fact that our economy is a liberalized one, where individual(s) can invest in anything legal. It goes without saying that land in Uganda is one of the resources, individuals can invest in at will.
It would appear a double standard to me for such individuals to start thinking of such draconian legislations to an intent to grab land that could be available. |
| authored by Evelyn on 11. August 2009 at 17:24 |
What good and inspiring legacy are these people going to leave behind for the new generation, their children, grandchildren, uganda citizens an dthe world. Their days wil b eover someday.
Corruption has become the fabric of our society and it comes from the TOP |
| I cannot agree more with Mr. Tumwesigye! authored by ARINAITWE K JAMES on 10. August 2009 at 00:14 |
The majority of the land in our Uganda as we know it today, is owned by either political big wigs or successful business men and women. Not to mention some of these people having gotten it through what I would call " unethical means". This is because they not only have the money from the taxi payer but also the power to support it.
If the Gen. wants to buy any land in any part of Uganda, he can because not only can he afford it, but he has all the right connection and support to do so. However, how about the poor Ugandan peasant, who pays his taxes on time, works hard to send his/her children to school but has an untamed land because he doesn't have the finances to do so? Should he/she then lose his piece of land? Shouldn't he keep save if for his children or grandchildren and may be if they can afford, they will develop it at their own convenience?
This proposal from the general to me seems like it's strips Uganda's citizens of their right to obtain and possess land for the amount of period they so wish.
I could ask a ten thousand questions about this proposal to "seize unused land". How about my solution: I suggest to the general, that it's high time, all Uganda's children have recreational facilities to develop their mental and physical capacities. So why don't we use this " unused land" to make parks, sports grounds, bike trails and tracks for the after school children, not only for the affluent but for those children who after school, have no basketball court or soccer field to play on because their parents can't afford one.
Suggestion # 2. There are a million of Ugandan's who lost land either through " the restructuring of the borders with Tanzania" which my family was so affected and the gov't shut up as if nothing had happened. Why don't we distribute this " unused land... (that is after determining it has absolutely no owner) to these people who are homeless, and let them use it for agricultural purposes to support both themselves and their families. We would have killed two birds with one stone. Provide homes for home and land for homeless/landless and also boost productivity in agricultural production. In turn these people will pay taxes on their produce the gov't which will be used to do more stuff if not used in corrupt means. |
| Seize Idle land authored by vincent on 9. August 2009 at 22:38 |
| Uganda with only 37 registered land surveyors, 28 of whom are in Kampala area alone. How then does one expect to have land developed if the owners are never sure of its proper demarkation and yet one comes up from Kampala to suggest the seizure of unused land. His point is good because it is developmental but at this stage it is too early my dear. Shall we tackle issues like proper land survey and clear terms of ownership before you see which land to be given to those who are already rich, hence denying the poor ugandans what they actually already lack. God bless you. |
| 'seize idle land' authored by TUGUME Fidel on 7. August 2009 at 15:51 |
| I certainly do concur with Gen. Tinyefuza on the mentioned issue of seizing idle land more especialy that one that is arround town areas such as Kampala and its surbubs. In my view such land should not simply be kept there idle just to be looked at like a picture in an album instead of being developed by those that own it or rather should be handed over on to those that can put it into use on certain agreed up on terms. This is because once such land is left in the middle of the already developed areas it makes such areas look ugly and untidy. Therefore Ugandans should not simply sing about land, land but instead should punctuate their land songs with vision choruses of urbanization and development. |
| WRONG ATTITUDE! authored by Mwebaze Charlotte on 6. August 2009 at 09:36 |
| It is such attitudes that are driving more people to resort to murder in settling land disputes. No wonder the media is filled with stories of swatters murdering the owners who try to sell the land! |
| First things First General!! authored by Ernest Mutanga on 31. July 2009 at 12:32 |
It is as well thet the General is proposing the seizure of 'idle' land but from whom and how? I dare ask!!!
I had a heated disussion, on this same subject, with the Hon. Otafire way back in 1998 in a small trading centre in Adjumani. My question to him was simple: You want to seize this land because it is idle but do you know who it belongs to? If this simple question cannot be answered for the vast area of land in Uganda, then we have a problem!!
Secondly, how will you manage this seizure given the different types of tenure? How do you seize communal land in Karamoja or in Acholi, for instance? It is the absence of clear, unbiased criteria of how this should happen that aggrieves the Baganda in particular. They see this as an opportunity to grab land that has properly documented personal ownership; the argument of acquisition (Buganda agreement etc) not withstanding.
Lastly, it is the question of the credibility of the persons who are pushing this seizure...Is this being pushed for personal gain? Has this got a connection to the 'middle class' theme that the President has been pushing for so long? And who, should we ask, are becoming the 'middle class"?
Land is a well known store of value and could be seen to be akin to the stock market. It is highly probable that the General owns quite a bit of shares in some of our companies on the stock market. This money is in excess of his needs and in a sense could be 'idle' and therefore 'investable'. Should we limit how much of this money the General should place in stocks? Should we grab the excess? Who will determine what is excess?
Rather than seizure, it is important that we create a 'market' for the exchange of the land (stock market for excess cash in the Generals' case). It will then be a question of divestment now or divestment in future with those opting for the latter being the ones who own the so called 'idle' land. If the government wants this land now, they will need to CONVINCE the owners of the need to 'divest now' and NOT COERCION!!!
I am afraid that the gains the country has made will be lost if uncredible persons are used to push an agenda that is considered self conceited. Justice should always be seen to prevail regardless!!! |
| Think twice! authored by Eric Tumwesigye on 24. July 2009 at 01:08 |
Ugandan politicians are full of surprises! They will say things that you barely expect them to say as icons of the state. One question that we need to ask is what do we call iddle land? and who determines whether a piece of land is iddle or not? In this era of power inequalities in our country, if you say seize land, who do you think will seize the land and who will loose? its quite a whole lot of questions. If we say that land be seized, it is those who own the smallest plots that will actually loose! Because these are the majority Ugandans who do not have money to develop their pieces of land. Think Twice Mr. Gen
The biggest propotion of land in Uganda is owned by the few politicians and the key figures in the country and this is where I support the limmit of land ownership. This will have to start with limmiting the amount of land that these people own. They basically displaced the poor in several parts of the country becuase they are the POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS as our General is proposing. This is just one example of the reasons why our country has failed to develøop holistically! people just think about themselves and the rest of the population can die anyway! Think twice! |
| don't take anything serious with Tinye.. authored by Serugga Joas on 22. July 2009 at 18:29 |
Leave Tinyefunza to rest and dwell in his miniature world of little reasoning and little common sense. He is a conduit for his dinner lady, Museveni's ideas. No difference between the fool and the baffoon. They're all still stuck in the last century where reasoning was a blessing. These days every one has an opinion thankfully and so happens to be for Tinye and the dinner lady. They unfortunately forget they just happen by pure chance to be where they are today, I SAY PURE CHANCE. Tinye will for ever make little sense to me. He sounds a guy in the by gone era of tyrany together with the dinner lady, only remembering to dance when his master sings.
Good luck to him and the dinner lady. Time is of essence, won't be too long as natures facts will soon set in. Hopefully that will be the opportunity for a new age and a new direction |
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